It’s amazing these trucks were produced as a “one size fits all” proposition.

The same thing was the case for the 1960-1962 IFS medium/heavy GMC/Chevy trucks. Mackies also chromed the bumper, added the Fascinating article Paul, thank you. The best solution was a short COE tractor to meet the regulations of the most stringent state(s) the truck would have to operate in. Just like American cars started to lose their status to the imports, the Big Three’s big trucks also started to lose image and status compared to the independents. The GMC “crackerbox” COE did survive longer, until 1969, but only because a very conventional dumbed-down version was rushed into production to replace the DLR8000, not unlike the 1962 Chevy II and 1964 Tempest, Skylark and Cutlass. We got no such trucks in Aus. “Hey, lookee what we can do!” was probably a common mindset at the GM of that era. And even Dodge jumped in, with its L series, from 1965. The aluminum cab was an echo chamber and hot in summer and cold in winter.
I'm looking for one of these trucks, so If you EMD absolutely revolutionized railroading in the US with a revolutionary product. The all NEW GMC Aluminum "Tilt-Cab Cruiser" is commonly called the "Crackerbox" by truck fans. Watch; 1/32 RESIN GMC Crackerbox COE Cabover Semi Truck Cab.

They rode so rough, the solid axle trucks on the next generation Super Duties that replaced them were actually better riding. They were tall and rather intimidating looking, so utilitarian and stark, and as such very easily identifiable. How many were actually sold with the air ride is another question. That was excellent. Required fields are marked *. GM press releases state that the DLR 8000 went into production in 1959, and that supposedly the DFR 8000 was added later.

I am sorry, I should have been more clear. All you could change was paint color. And issues with the IFS were pretty much inevitable, realistically. 1/16 GMC Cracker Box Day Cab COE Monogram AMT ERTL Resin. Reply. VIN FH9640AD2152J. 6-71 10 speed. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. There was no twin rear axle version, and very few options. 8ft 2 in or 2.5 metres is standard max width across the planet, why you ask, have a look at a shipping container they have to fit a truck for road transport without over dimension flags, Buses can be wider as bodies are usually locally built to suit the market but trucks are sold ex factory ready to go world wide. I recall the odd one on the highways around here when I was a kid. Unfortunately, there no weights given here, but I found it elsewhere: 9090 lbs.

Afterward, he owned a couple of Volvo tractors – he found them to be quite smooth riding. That explains why GMC quickly rushed out the DF7000, a very conventional truck to suit the actual needs and preferences of its customers, not GM’s planners and engineers. The more time it takes for the flame front to move from spark plug to burn all the mixture, the greater chance of detonation. Plus fuels of the era did not have the consistency we see today. I knew very little about these trucks despite being a big truck fan from a very young age. My job was to start it every day to let it build up enough air for the cab air bags to come up off the stops. GM, Ford, Dodge, Leyland, GM Europe and Ford Europe all bailed out of truck building, whereas Daimler-Benz, Volvo (cars now gone), Fiat and Renault (now sold of course) managed both, and VW have successfully bought into trucks. View cart for details. All ICL tractors were GMC's as they were a contract carrier. ~ As a technical question, why did the DFR have the V6 engine instead of the I-6 like the DLR.Was this to minimize bumper back of cab (BBC)?

They also had a terminal in It came only as a complete integrated package, with no wheelbase options, no tandem rear axles, and no drive line options. And they wanted to make sure it ran on the crappiest regular grade of gas.

introduced them in 1959, production was stopped after 1968 when they came out with the Astro. Buy It Now {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Zero responses to that. Of course GM went on to kill its medium duty and HD light duty trucks too. … With no executive oversight that “improves” a design of a car, or decides capriciously what would be best, the truck guys just soldiered on and steadily improved the product.

So why trucks? Cross-country truck freight hauling was still quite unusual, and if so, the loads were typically interchanged at Denver or other key hubs with West Coast freight companies. Only worked on one Cracker Box in my career.

I also find it interesting that the X-brace was only used the the DLR trucks and not the DFR trucks. Most of the paint has been stripped. Cng Truck Engines, 1964 Gmc Crackerbox, 1980 Kenworth W900a, 2013 Aths Awards. Learn how your comment data is processed. Moving companies were another target market, as maximum volume that could meet the shortest state restrictions was desirable. These operators primarily covered the cities and industrial centers of the East and Midwest. Here’s a few more crackerboxes in assorted roles. 1968 GMC CRACKERBOX GMC Other . There’s just some anecdotal comments out there, but it’s easy to come to obvious conclusions. Mackies also chromed the bumper, added the A 238 hp version of the 6-71 also became available in subsequent years. The independent suspension seems like a good idea, but I wonder how much it really improved the ride? One has to wonder what they put in their pipe tobacco in Detroit back in the late 50s. That was probably why Ford developed the truck that replaced the Louisville trucks, new product, sell the product. Back then, the market for heavy trucks was a regional / local affair. The previous owner used it for short runs but couldnt stand the noise. Absolutely fascinating piece Paul, thank you! Sleeper cab. I can’t help but admire GM for trying. Browse our inventory of new and used GMC ASTRO Trucks For Sale near you at TruckPaper.com. This brochure from 1959 shows the DLR8000 (left) with its aluminum cab in front of the axle and an ultra short 108″ wheelbase, which combined with its mere 48″ of cab length meant that longer trailers could be used in highly restricted states. I am highly dubious. There was also so many truck manufacturers that you had to compete with. Condition is Used. lou guimond/ in ct. says: October 23, 2018 at 9:22 pm.

This ability to meet the various state restrictions was of particular importance to movers, which had to potentially be able to go to any state, and explain why long distance moving trucks almost invariably had COE tractors. in Oshawa, Ontario. Last Updated July 24, 2008. weight Aluminum Tilt-Cab in it's class. That’s because the West Coast had drastically more lenient length rules, so that long conventional trucks like this 1940s Peterbilt dominated there. They are working with International now to revive their medium duty trucks. In addition to those aspects, what undoubtedly undid the DLR 8000 was its very narrowly-targeted one-size-fits-all concept, oriented specifically for medium/larger eastern freight haulers. 1941 WILLYS POWERLINE PICKUP JEEP 1 OF A KIND DIESEL A/C 5/SP 50 M.P.G. with GMC's Gas Twin-Six V-12 engine, or Detroit Diesel 71 series Diesel Engines.

Also a honey for short turn radius in crowed metro … Outstanding post, Paul. The two different designs are more obvious here. I wonder if this is a DFR8000?

Very rare,although built in large volumes unlike the DLR8000. When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. They had them engineer a more complex and expensive truck that was suitable for just one slice of the market.

When a car program takes 2-3 years at least, how can someone really get the full experience? Buy Gmc Crackerbox on eBay now! engine ran good compressor works, ir governor waserratic new governor purchased and included. Contact the GMC Guy I have to digest this in parts, simply too much goodies for one meal…. They were not ideal for the long haul. Some have claimed that the crackerbox was available with the 475 hp 12V-71 Detroit Diesel, but not from the factory for highway use. But the market spoke, and Ford bailed in 1997, selling out to Freightliner. The same Detroit diesels were used in the mid 1970s Bedford TM range. Nasty51Ford; Big Dog; 43 198 posts; Location: Eustis, Fl; Author; Share; Posted … American Brands: AMC, Jeep and All Others, Tractors, Lawn Mowers, Off-Road Equipment, Truckstop Classic: 1959-1961 GMC DLR8000 “Crackerbox” – GM’s Deadly Sin #32 – Turns Out the Most Advanced Semi Truck In the World Wasn’t What Truckers Really Wanted. Mechanically simple it always started and didnt breakdown. I’m guessing that the frame was driven in part by that IFS so once that went away the frame could revert to conventional construction. This was a very tightly-speced truck for very specific applications.

Never a day off. Gmc Crackerbox on Sale. Ten years on it was very different with the fledgling motorway network growing rapidly and the hamorrhaging of traditionally rail traffic to articulated HGVs.

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It is amazing how the big three did manage to build the ugliest HD cabover trucks in the sixty’s. front axle from Dayton to Budd and put on the polished wheels. There must be some common design element that appeals to my subconscious that I cannot identify…..or a mutated gene that I have. It soon spawned other variants. Interestingly, it later worked out the opposite way. It didn’t help solve Dodge’s problems, and lasted until 1975 when Dodge exited the market. View cart for details. These are trucks I only knew about in passing so it’s nice to read an in-depth look. Brand New. In the East, the White 3000, the first popular tilt-cab truck dominated the COE market in the ’50s. Heavy-haulage and intercontinental transport (Middle East, Africa) was their game. Later heavy COE-trucks with continental success -some more than others- were the Scania 0 and 1-series (110/111 and 140/141), the DAF 2800-series and the Mercedes-Benz NG (Neue Generation). Got laid off when the HD truck division was sold to Volvo.

Did have air IFS. Maybe they need to keep management away from design and engineering, and let marketing only deal with dealers.

That’s crossed my mind also as things have indeed changed. And as we’ll see later, by 1960 a very conventional “crackerbox” with its cab over the axle like the DFR 8000 was added, which quickly became the only version offered.

is on the right. What a superb piece on something I knew little about.

$10.00. Free shipping. The Crackerbox was a common sight in my childhood but I never could’ve imagined it started out with IFS and front cab.
The DLR’s X-braced frame (left) is even visible. As a former truck driver, I’m in in awe of the cramped, sparce cab, the noise of the big Detroit under your bum and the bone shaking over-axle driving position. This was all fresh info for me, and fascinating stuff!


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