Systema and Sambo????? Kann man das Deutschland irgendwo lernen? thank you all for the responses.
4/13; UFC on ESPN+ 7 - Sat. 4/20 ; Bellator MMA 220 - Sat. Relevance. Ich weis das ich mal wieder der bin der alte Themen aufrollt. It is a utterly practicality focused art, if you're practicing something it better work live against a trained opponent. Why is Systema bullshit? But as you can see, it has a lot to offer. I would say that Sambo is, give or take, 70-ish% Judo. There is the debate as to whether it's awesome, or really awesome. By submitting information you grant a license to Bullshido and/or Creative Combat to reproduce your statement or work. Trending .
Sambo vs. Jiu-Jitsu. But still no good Krav. Even among people who say systema is good (and a lot of it isn't), its considered to supplement a background of conventional martial arts. SAMBO. Huge difference between Sambo and Systema. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Also know your history and what you are talking about. When you do (combat) sambo you know you're doing fighting, there is little meta to it. 4/27; UFC on ESPN 3 - Sat. Sambo, bayonet, stage combat, executive protection, hand to hand, and the rest escape me at the moment, sorry. Kettlebells, Strength & Conditioning Forum. I know my $0.02 worth is just that, but |I will throw it out anyway. JavaScript is disabled. Are they different variations on the same theme? You can pick up a guitar and just start playing some atonal fuckery and call yourself a "jazz musician" but people who play jazz actually learn their instrument before they start improvising and doing weird shit as an exploration of form. Almost without fail, everyone that I met who were skilled, already had fairly significant experience in at least one martial art when they began their Systema training. Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
Sambo legitimately came out of Russian military hand-to-hand combat training, and was given sport aspects to help encourage practice, evolution, and growth. There are three branches of Sambo: International Sport Sambo, Combat Sambo, and Military Sambo. Can you elaborate? Thank you, not dying really rewarding in more ways than I can express. Suvorov said: So no actual fighting tech.? It's one of few ecletic martial arts which actually became somewhat good at everything and didn't reduce itself to some rbsd crap. Great holistic health practice but don't expect to be teh deadly Spetsnaz. 4/27; Toggle navigation. I have the good fortune of having one school of each of these systems (three schools in total) within commuting distance.
Only systema nerds debate Sambo. Thanks for the interesting bit of info.
You are using an out of date browser. Where dead horses go to die twice, and shit posts rise from the ashes to become shit phoenixes Lightly moderated, for blatantly obvious idiocy and NSFW or illegal content. DROP SEIONAGI MOTHERFUCKER! It is a utterly practicality focused art, if you're practicing something it better work live against a trained opponent. ).
Click the Android link at the top of this page. You are using an out of date browser. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4782614389622826842&q=Systema, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5511250819135792955&q=Systema, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4471313984795358446&q=Systema, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=827877829185720919&q=Systema, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo_%28martial_art%29, http://midwestshootingacademy.com/systema/index.htm, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2507273940931607496&q=Systema, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. But generally Systema is not viewed well, it has horrific quality control and is full of con-men. While this is largely a matter of opinion, there are some definite differences between the two. Da wird dann wirklich gekämpft. Or are they completely different? Le sambo (en russe : Самбо) est un art martial et un sport de combat créé en URSS dans les années 1930, mélangeant principalement le judo, la boxe et la lutte ().Suivant le type de sambo pratiqué, l'usage des percussions pieds-poings peut être autorisé (combat sambo) en plus de son aspect lutte (sambo sportif), faisant du sambo une catégorie proche du combat libre Erst wenn ich selbst gegen so einen "Magier" gekämpft habe glaube ich den Scheiß. Sorry OP, I disagree. Systema: never trained it, never want to train it.
Sambo is going to be a lot more consistent and almost certainly better overall.
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It's great to work on breathing, and relaxation, and improvisation but you also need to know how to reliably hit someone/ not get hit, and grapple. Allgemeiner Talk zu Kampfsport + Movies + Adressen von Dojos.
By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. … The existence of Fedor Emelianenko and Khabib Nurmagomedov tells me that Sambo is pretty legit. Systema ist der russische Gegensatz zum asiatischen Wing Chun.
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But generally Systema is not viewed well, it has horrific quality control and is full of con-men. SAMBO v ROSS vs SYSTEMA - I posted this in the Judo forum but if anyone can provide me an answer, since I was not able to provide my brother an answer when he asked, what is the difference between SAMBO, SYSTEMA, and ROSS? judomofo . No-one debates Sambo. Systema on the other hand ranges from the sublime to the ridiculous and I say this as someone with a few years training in it (MR/VV school). … Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu specializes in grappling and grounding techniques, well-suited for ring-fights.
The primary differences are 1) there are actually no chokes allowed in sport Sambo, and 2) the prevalence of leglocks in Sambo, as opposed to Judo. YMAS: if you don't know, don't ask . Not sure what is debated about Sambo. I literally have never seen systema so I have no idea.
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Not without a good bit of solid kyokushin/MT and grappling under your belt first. Russian Sambo being a battlefield combat system works wonders for militants as well as someone stuck in a street fight. Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back. VampireMonk Black Belt. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Krav Maga | Judo | DZR Jujitsu | Army Combatives | Taijutsu, Sambo (mod of r/sambo), some bjj, judo newbie. Only overall, general improvements? soweit ich weiß gibt es nur einzelne Kurse die dann 2 bis 3 tage dauern paar mal im jahr, und dann sagte Gott: Bye Leutz ich geh trainieren. Mitglieder in diesem Forum: 0 Mitglieder und 1 Gast. Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Dooky, Feb 26, 2006. great post. what it added was subtle things needed to progress in MMA. Can someone describe the similarities and differences, the main focus, and anything else you care to mention. I would like to learn a well rounded martial art for self defence and I have heard good things about systema and sambo. I assume you're referring to Systema as being useful as a racoons' ass...as it happens, Systema was designed specifically for Soviet Spetsnaz special forces troops.
HUGE.. comparing the wrong art. Systema ist nur Ansatzweise mit Sambo vergleichbar, denn diese Kampfkunst ist viele Hundert Jahre älter als Sambo. Der Vorteil der Klugheit besteht darin, dass man sich dumm stellen kann. Each has different rules/applications, Sport Sambo being pure grappling, Combat Sambo being an MMA like competition, and military Sambo an actual combat version for soldiers. Sysetma is a water-down, less effective, untested version of military Sambo. All times are GMT-7. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The Official Bullshido Android App is now available in the Play Store. Are these one and the same?
All I know of Systema is what I have seen on video. Edit this module to specify a template to display. With sambo you know what the end result is. A more even comparison would be Krav Maga vs. Russian Systema. Ross---Systema---Combat Sambo? UFC 236 - Sat. You must log in or register to reply here.
It may not display this or other websites correctly. Bad ass jacket wrestling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niL13_CTTi8 (sometimes jacket kicking and punching too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnfQ9oQyLE) vs fat larping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3wVSys7cwo. Would it be better without the silly top and with more olive oil? Whoever says it's ither debatable or even anything less than the legit and super effective martial art that it is is completely retarded. 3 Answers. What's the difference? Kettlebells, Strength & Conditioning Forum. ROSS Vs. Systema Vs. Sambo? „The rush of battle is a potent and often lethal addiction, for war is a drug.“). Or are they completely different? es ist eigentlich sowieso nicht ausreichend auch wenn man 2mal die Woche eine Kampfsportartpraktiziert die ganz guten erfahrenen Kampfsportler haben viel mehr trainiert dier erfolge waren dann aber auch nicht vergleichbar mit denen eines Kampfsportlers der 2 oder 3 mal die Woche ins Training geht aber es gibt immer ausnahmen^^. I've done systema, and I liked it, but I would go as far as saying it's pretty much useless without a sambo background or background in something comparable. Das Gegenteil ist schon schwieriger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PKfW2R6x_E, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I, http://www.team-andro.com/phpBB3/beitra ... l#p7035302, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-pIFyI-0ow&translated=1, http://www.istdasnochsport.homepage.eu/linkliste.html, Ich führe einen Krieg gegen Lügen und Dummheit und das macht mich nicht beliebt. hey sorry, aber das video find ich echt nicht so doll. Not sure what is debated about Sambo. sambosteve, Aug 2, 2006 #34. I have the good fortune of having one school of each of these systems (three schools in total) within commuting distance. It's no coincidence that the best Systema fighter I saw in the MR/VV school had been a Sambo fighter and instructor in the military before he ever did Systema. But as you can see, it has a lot to offer. Combat Sambo is part of Russian Systema and it is more similar to Krav Maga than the other two Sambo systems. Or are they completely different? We had some Russian dude do a sambo seminar at my jiu jitsu place, there was nothing I saw that I disliked. Khabib Nurmagomedov at Weigh In. If there was a combat Sambo gym near me I would train there in a heartbeat.
Hopefully I will be able to learn both, but which one would be good to learn first for a beginner to martial arts? Sambo is about as legit as it gets. Sambo legitimately came out of Russian military hand-to-hand combat training, and was given sport aspects to help encourage practice, evolution, and growth. Ross---Systema---Combat Sambo? Systema is really hit or miss ranging from basically Combat Sambo to magicial man-dancing. Und Systema ist weit aus mehr als nur reines drauf los schlagen oder Tritte und Würfe. It's a legit as Judo, Greco-Roman, BJJ or any other grappling style you want to mention. Are these one and the same? In a fight between a SAMBO guy and a systema guy, I'd bet on the former every time. also systema und sambo sind ja beide russische kampfsportarten . Sherdog.com is a property of Mandatory Media, LLC, monitoring_string = "5200e30beed193e5fe31f8bccc2bdcbf". I'm in toronto so these are the two combat sambo places I could find: 'central academy of mma and bjj' and the combat academy toronto/mma fightclub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niL13_CTTi8, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnfQ9oQyLE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3wVSys7cwo. 1 decade ago. Yeah there are probably some guys good enough to make people capable with their "pure systema" but I wouldn't like my chances of finding one.